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  • Test av nye JR XG8 DMSS 8ch Radio med telemetri

    Etter at Elefun har fått inn JR agenturet skal MFN nå teste den nye 8 kanaleren som forventes å bli svært populær.

    JR XG8 DMSS XBus 8ch Radio med telemetri

    Er for øyeblikket på ferie på en Kroatisk øy, men regner med at det er klart for boksåpning når jeg er hjemme på fredag.
    Tenkte da jeg skulle teste ut litt videoreview.

    Reviewet blir ett brukerreview og ikke ett review om dmss, fast, dsx eller hva pokker alle forskjellige standardene heter.... Skal dette utdypes så får noen andre balle med dette. Funker det så er jeg happy.



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  • #2
    Tenker meg da åpning av eske, tilkoblinger, binding, oppsett av enkel modell, modell med doble høyderor og doble balanseror, litt om flightmodes, motorseilflyoppsett med flaps.

    Helikopter har jeg for tiden ikke, men oppsettet kan jo vises....

    Mvh
    Alf

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    • #3
      Oversikt og info om DMSS

      Overview
      The XG8 DMSS Telemetry Radio System (Black Edition) from JR is an outstanding addition to the market and JR's line of superb-quality radios. The first Radio to incorporate JR's own DMSS Technology - Dual Modulation Spectrum System - 100% JR, it leads the way for a new era in Radios.

      The XG8 is the first JR transmitter to come with a 2S Li-Fe battery, being fitted with a 1400 mAh pack. This has greatly reduced the weight of the transmitter, which weighs in at only 770 grams. It also ensures perfect balance. The transmitter has an integrated charging circuit so just plug in the AC adapter supplied and the charging unit will shut down automatically once it detects that the battery is fully charged. No more worries overcharging! The XG8 offers Aeroplane, Helicopter and Glider modes, a 30 model internal memory, stick modes 1 to 4 and an SD card slot for model data sharing, expanded storage and software updates (SD card not supplied).

      Programming is easy thanks to JR's well-proven, intuitive user interface with data entered using the familiar scroll bar and four push-button entry keys. The programming information is clearly displayed on the large, graphical back lit screen. XG8 uses the new JR DMSS 2.4 technology which, besides offering a secure, robust radio link to control your models, also offers advanced telemetry functions and JR's new Intelligent Output System. Receiver voltage telemetry is built in as standard and other forthcoming add-on sensors will give you real time feedback of information from your model such as the RPM of an aircraft propeller or helicopter rotor blades, temperature and variometer/altimeter readings.

      JR's Intelligent Output System automatically selects control signals that need to be transmitted at exactly the same time and transmits the data for these channels as one complete signal frame. This ensures that there is no time delay when commanding servos used for critical functions such as a CCPM swash plate on a helicopter or when operating a four servo aileron wing. Other features include side-lever controls on either side of the transmitter, a Touch Select System for switch selection, dual trim options, a user selected menu for frequently used functions, failsafe on all eight channels, user assigned switch function, programmable throttle cut and two independent programmable timers.

      Programming Modes:

      (For Helicopter)
      -6 flight mode with programmable delay.
      -Adjustable E-ring system prevents overdriving the cyclic servos electronically.
      -5 swash plate types
      -5-point graphic tail curve
      -5-point graphic throttle and pitch curve with safety system.
      -Advanced trim input system allows in-flight adjustment for Gyro gain and governor.
      -Throttle and Pitch curve setting can copy among flight mode.
      -JR easy swash plate correction system.

      (For Airplane)
      -3 flight mode with programmable delay.
      -3-position flap switch with flap delay and elevator compensation programming
      -Various wing types for Airplane
      -(Normal: Dual servo selection on AILE/ELEV/RUDD/FLAP)
      -(Flaperon: Dual servo selection on ELEV/RUDD)
      -(Delta: Dual servo selection on RUDD/FLAP)
      -(4 Aileron: Dual serve selection on ELEV or RUDD)
      -V-tail setting.
      -Advanced trim input system allows in-flight mixing adjustment.
      -Such as knife edge or landing with flap system.

      (For Glider)
      -5 flight mode with programmable delay.
      -Advanced programmable brake system with elevator compensation programming.
      -Various wing types for Glider
      -(Flaperon: Dual servo selection on ELEV/FLAP/SPOI)
      -V-tail setting.
      -Advanced Trim Input System: allows in-flight mixing adjustment for flap and aileron camber..
      Features

      Dual Modulation Spectrum System
      Integrated Helicopter, Airplane and Glider mode.
      30-model internal memory
      Large graphical screen with backlight
      Extremely light weight transmitter case with perfect balance.
      It only weighs 770 grams with the Li-Fe battery installed.
      4 user-selectable control modes (Mode 1, Mode 2, Mode 3 and Mode 4)
      Includes RG831B 8channel high-speed Receiver with an extra telemetry module.
      The new JR Intelligent Output System automatically selects which control signals should be transmitted at exactly the same time. For example, the three channels of a CCPM swash plate or a 4 servo aileron wing type. It transmits the data for these channels as one complete signal frame. Thus, there is no time delay between channel data transmission for these critical functions.
      Features the DMSS advanced telemetry system which gives you real time feed back of information from the aircraft such as receiver voltage, flight pack voltage, r.p.m. of the motor propeller or rotor blades, temperature, and variometer/altimeter in the future. The possibilities are almost limitless.
      The charging circuit is integrated in the transmitter, so you only need to plug in the AC adaptor. The charging unit automatically detects a full charge and shuts off automatically.
      AC adapter can be used for not only charging but programming, and playing with flight simulator.
      Integrated SD card slot enables model data sharing, expanded storage and software updates.
      JR advanced intuitive programming interface.
      JR Jog Dial and 4 enter key interface for easy programming.
      Side-lever controller on both side of Transmitter.
      Touch Select System for switch selection.
      2 type of trim selection for 4 controllers. (THRO/ Normal for EP or Idol for GP) (AILE/ELEV/RUDD/ Normal or Limited Stroke Trim to protect your linkage)
      User selected menu for frequently used functions.
      Fail safe position for each 8 channel.
      User-assigned switch function
      Programmable throttle cut
      Programmable 2 independent timer.
      Includes: 1x DMSS 8ch Transmitter-Black Edition, 1x 8ch DMSS Rx, 1x Bind Plug, 1x 2S LiFe 1400mAh Battery for Tx, 1x AC Adapter for Tx, 1x Instruction Manual



      What is JR DMSS?
      Dual Modulation Spectrum System is JR's own 2.4GHz protocol. Although a late entry to the 2.4GHz market, DMSS can be considered as the truly 'state of the art' method of providing radio control for model use. And since JR have not rushed their own 2.4 protocol into production, they have been able to incorporate the very latest techniques for 'Wideband Data Transmission' into the next generation of JR radio control sets.

      DMSS combines the best features of Frequency Hopping Spread Spectrum (FHSS) and Direct Sequence Spread Spectrum (DSSS) protocols. FHSS is great for avoiding interference and DSSS offers high response. JR DMSS combines both these attributes, having both frequency hopping and high response. The JR DMSS system uses a greater than 3Mhz wide signal as compared to the majority of others which utilise a much narrower [1Mhz or less] signal. If we know anything about spread spectrum signals, the wider base signal [3Mhz Vs 1Mhz] allows for a huge increase in noise and interference immunity performance and at the same time allowing for much faster data bandwidth/throughput.

      The fact that DMSS is actually using quite a wide bandwidth signal is a huge advantage in 2.4GHz performance and it will provide superior performance over any other current 2.4GHz system that is currently available.

      DMSS also offers 'Two-Way Communication' (telemetry) with receiver voltage monitoring as standard. Other types of sensor are due soon, with Temperature and RPM sensors being the next types to become available from JR in late June.

      However, probably the most important thing about JR DMSS is that it is 100% pure JR, with no involvement from any other outside company. This means that JR are back in full control of product development, so they can now concentrate on doing what they do best - making what are arguably the world's best quality radio control systems.


      How can I get JR DMSS?
      DMSS is being built into the next generation of JR radio control sets. DMSS sets can be differentiated from earlier JR 2.4 sets by looking for the XG series nomenclature. The first XG series radio to Australia will be the XG8 eight-channel system, which is supplied with an RG831 receiver complete with an embedded Receiver Voltage sensor and the combined satellite receiver/telemetry module RA01T.

      The XG8 has passed MAAA testing and is due for release in Australia on June 15th, 2011. Later in the year we expect the radio line-up to extend with a pleasing blend of conventional JR transmitter case design with modern design touches. When picked up and compared with current eight channel sets we think you really will 'feel the difference' !


      If I already own a JR modular transmitter, can I update it to DMSS?
      At the time of writing we are still waiting for JR's instructions on how to deal with requests for DMSS updates. We will post any new information on this topic in the Support pages of our website.


      Will I be able to use DSM2 receivers with my JR DMSS transmitter?
      No. JR DMSS is a completely new 2.4 protocol with the combined better features from FHSS and DSSS. DMSS transmitters will not work with earlier 2.4 receivers from either JR or other manufacturers.


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      • #4
        Eskeåpning

        Esken er åpnet og jeg har kjent på senderen. Den føles god u i mine hender og som er vant med JR. Den balanserer bra og bryterne sitter godt. utseendet kan diskuteres, men førsteinntrykket av JR 11 var litt Star Wars, men ting går jo videre her i verden og jeg liker godt utseendet på den. Scroll og knappmenyene fungerer som kjent på diverse Spektrum og JR radioer.

        Det jeg savnet var batteribryter og stropp. Bryter er ikke så nøye da folk flest bruker brytere etter egne preferanser men stropp burde man jo hatt med.

        I denne testen er det i tillegg til 8 kanaleen som er standard sendt med den lille indoor 4 kanaleren med 300m rekkevidde.

        Noen bilder fra oppakkingen


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        • #5
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          • #6
            Video av binding !

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            • #7
              Supert med en test av JR. Men må inrømme, har aldri fått med stropp når jeg har kjøpt radio

              Det jeg gjerne skulle sett at du tester er å legge radioen noen timer i fryseren på rundt 20 minus grader om du har lulighet til det, teste litt rundt batterikapasitet og radioens funksjoner i kalde omgivelser. Grunnen til dette er at jeg vet at radioprodusentene skjelden tester radioen i veldig kalde omgivelser.
              Lars Norberg

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              • #8
                Her kan man forresten se manualen: http://pierre.rondel.free.fr/images4/JRXR8.pdf
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                • #9
                  Aldri fått med stropp? Fulgte med min 14MZ, DX7, DX8 og JR 12X....
                  Men dør jo ikke av det da.

                  Kuldetesten tror jeg den skal få til vinteren, er ikke sikker på at elektronikken liker fuktigheten inn og ut av frysa, men det gjør kanskje ikke noe? Kunne vært morsomt å sjekke hvordan det fungerer. Bruker LiFE i alle vinterflyene og det fungerer ihvertfall utrolig bra. har aldri hatt trøbbel av noen sort. De er nok brukt ned til 12-14 minus.
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                  • #10
                    Gjør gjerne en test. Man tar den jo inn og ut om vinteren også.
                    Lars Norberg

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                    • #11
                      Litt tilleggsinfo ang. binding av 4 og 6 kanals mottageren så trenger man faktisk ikke å bruke bindepluggen når man skal binde disse opp, de 3 første sekundene når man setter i strømmen på disse mottagerene så kjører den en "autobind" funksjon som gjør at man kan binde mottageren uten å bruke pluggen.....bare litt tilleggsinfo.
                      - Håvard Glad Andreassen
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                      • #12
                        Snart feature, må sjekkes



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                        • #13
                          Er det en 3 posisjons switch på venstre side?

                          Sendt fra min android
                          Compass Atom 550 FBL - ds510m - bls 251 - mini v-bar
                          XG8
                          Snart:

                          Compass 7hv v2 - MKS HBL 950 - HBL 980 -
                          V-bar
                          Compass Warp 360 - MKS DS95 - DS95i - Beast X - Yge 40A

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                          • #14
                            Jepp det er det. 3 stk om jeg ikke husker feil, den siste er kun 2 posisjons bryter.

                            Driver å setter opp motorseiler nå Litt prøving og feiling, men kjent i JR menyen så det fungerer bra. Video av dette kommer etterhvert.
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                            • #15
                              Så det går fint å ha idle på venstre og throttelhold på høyre?

                              Sendt fra min android
                              Compass Atom 550 FBL - ds510m - bls 251 - mini v-bar
                              XG8
                              Snart:

                              Compass 7hv v2 - MKS HBL 950 - HBL 980 -
                              V-bar
                              Compass Warp 360 - MKS DS95 - DS95i - Beast X - Yge 40A

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